[INDOLOGY] Fwd: Whitney and doubling of "ch"

[Harry Spier]

Very clear. Thanks.

On Sat, 21 Oct 2023, 12:36 Hock, Hans Henrich via INDOLOGY, <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> Somewhere along the line something seems to have gone wrong with the email
> address for the Indology List. This is an attempt to get the correct info
> back into the conversation thread.
>
> HHH
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
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> *From: *"Hock, Hans Henrich via INDOLOGY" <indology at list.indology.info>
> *Subject: **Re: [INDOLOGY] Whitney and doubling of "ch"*
> *Date: *October 21, 2023 at 11:28:56 CDT
> *To: *Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *McComas Taylor via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>, "
> ndology at list.indology.info" <ndology at list.indology.info>
> *Reply-To: *"Hock, Hans Henrich" <hhhock at illinois.edu>
>
> In a geminate, the consonant duration is longer and is distributed over
> two syllables; the first part forms the coda of the preceding syllable
> (and, if the vowel of that syllable is short, make the syllable heavy), the
> second part is the onset of the following syllable. (A geminate, however,
> is not a double consonant, in the sense that each part is released; rather
> the articulatory gesture for the consonant is held constant during the
> geminate.)
>
> I hope this helps; please excuse the somewhat technical language.
>
> HHH
>
> On Oct 21, 2023, at 03:44, Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I asked if in the Rg-veda as chanted today, it is gachati or gacchati that
> is chanted and Madhav answered that in this youtube recording
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvk2JxmD7zI
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvk2JxmD7zI__;!!DZ3fjg!8FlAwo5r4YEjyYFgm1CcNqmAImPqcnnRcZhHLIdakLyfW9oZDgQ1ONi8tRyhN-hyXQKW8bWU61DBm4e9JEEPJOiAUT4$> he
> heard gacchati.  But then I realized I'm not clear what the difference in
> pronounciation between a geminate and a non-geminate is.  In other words is
> the difference in pronounciation between gachati / gacchati ,  patra
> / pattra ,  karma / karmma etc. just that the geminated syllable is held
> longer than if it was non-geminated or is it more like gach-ati /
> gach-chati , pa-tra /pat-tra , kar-ma /karm-ma
> Thanks,
> Harry Spier
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 6:16 PM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:
>
>> In this recitation, I hear गच्छति, rather than गछति.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvk2JxmD7zI
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvk2JxmD7zI__;!!DZ3fjg!8FlAwo5r4YEjyYFgm1CcNqmAImPqcnnRcZhHLIdakLyfW9oZDgQ1ONi8tRyhN-hyXQKW8bWU61DBm4e9JEEPJOiAUT4$>
>>
>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
>> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
>> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
>> Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore,
>> India
>>
>> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 1:57 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>>> To clarify one point. In the Rg-veda  *as its chanted today*, is whats
>>> chanted gacchati or gachati.
>>> Harry Spier
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