[INDOLOGY] Correction and updates of Nirnay Sagar Fonts

Thu Feb 21 14:12:32 UTC 2019

Prof Deshpande Ji
This is an eye opener information. Thanks a lot. I will search pothi
edition online. But if, for you, easily accessible could you please share
the pdf.
Thanks a lot.

On Thu 21 Feb, 2019, 7:41 PM Madhav Deshpande, <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:

> Dear Krishnaprasad,
>
>      As a Pāṇinian, I would suggest that you look at the Nirnaya Sagar
> Pothi print of the Aṣṭādhyāyī for Sanskrit conjuncts.  So many conjuncts
> that occur in the Aṣṭādhyāyī do not occur anywhere else, and yet we must be
> able to represent those in a serious Sanskrit font.  The other issue that
> occurs to me is the ability to combine accent marks and candrabindu for
> nasality.  The other complicated representation of Devanagari occurs in the
> writing of Śukla Yajurveda, where numerous conjuncts occur that are
> normally not seen elsewhere.  Again the Nirnaya Sagara pothi prints are
> very useful in this regard.
>
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus
> Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan
> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Krishnaprasad G <
> krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Elliot Stern
>> Thanks a lot for sending the image of MSS. I am grateful to you.
>> Thanks
>> KP
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 2:38 AM Elliot Stern <emstern1948 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here’s a detail from the Mysore ms of padārthasaṅgrahaṭīkā “vyomavatī”:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Elliot
>>>
>>> On Feb 19, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY <
>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>>
>>>      I checked two manuscripts of the Aṣṭādhyāyī for एत्येधत्यूठ्सु and
>>> here are the scans:
>>> [image: image.png]
>>> [image: image.png]
>>> In neither of these manuscripts, you see a cluster with स handing below
>>> ट.  It would be great if someone could check a manuscript of Ṣaṭtriṃśat
>>> Tattvasandoha for the treatment of the cluster "ṭtri".  Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>> Professor Emeritus
>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>> University of Michigan
>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 5:59 AM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Will see if I find something.
>>>>
>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>> University of Michigan
>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:53 PM Krishnaprasad G <
>>>> krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I will try to search the instance. How about एत्येधत्यूठ्सु ??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue 19 Feb, 2019, 10:16 AM Madhav Deshpande, <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you remember a textual occurrence of द्विट्सु, it may be easier to
>>>>>> check in the manuscript images that I have.  Off-hand, I do not remember
>>>>>> seeing a स hanging under ट.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 7:18 PM Krishnaprasad G <
>>>>>> krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Sri Madhav Deshpande Acharya Ji
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for providing the images of ट्त्र, and personally l
>>>>>>> took like ट्त्र itself and not the hanging one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This we can change in rules. If 2 or 3 seconds pause is given at the
>>>>>>> time of typeset we will get ट्त्र otherwise we will get the hanging one.
>>>>>>> could you please suggest how द्विट्सु  is written in old MSS
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Krishna Prasad
>>>>>>> Whatsapp Number
>>>>>>> 963282891
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 7:45 AM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      I don't have access to a manuscript of
>>>>>>>> Ṣaṭtriṃśattattvasandoha, but here is the title page of the printed book
>>>>>>>> that does not use a cluster of "tra" hanging below "ṭ", but prints just "ṭ"
>>>>>>>> with a virāma sign.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>>> On the other hand, the title page of the edition in the Kashmir
>>>>>>>> Text Series, uses such a vertical cluster:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>>> However, it looks somewhat odd in its appearance to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>>>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:12 AM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      Great to see your progress.  A comment.  Some horizontal
>>>>>>>>> lines, like that न, look thicker than the top line and lines in some other
>>>>>>>>> characters.  The thickness should be uniform.  Similarly, the knot for न,
>>>>>>>>> म, भ etc. should look exactly the same, and it should look the same whether
>>>>>>>>> it appears in full or half forms of these characters.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>>>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>>>>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:58 AM Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY <
>>>>>>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>>>>> Some more characters.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> KP
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu 27 Dec, 2018, 8:11 PM Madhav Deshpande, <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>      Thank you so much for this download link.  It is a wealth
>>>>>>>>>>> of useful resources.  With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>>>>>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>>>>>>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>>>>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>>>>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:22 PM Krishnaprasad G <
>>>>>>>>>>> krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, everyone for supporting me giving feedbacks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can download from here.
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://yadi.sk/d/rDIogm1J3WjKp4
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:43 AM Harry Spier <
>>>>>>>>>>>> hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dominink Wujastyk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  modern font technology can help.  OpenType includes some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "alternates" or "contextual alternates" features that allow the user (or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> auto-select) to select from multiple versions of a glyph.  But I'm sure you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know this.  And it's only certain advanced text-setting programs like TeX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that allow one to access such features easily (e.g., through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fontspec <https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec?lang=en>, manual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part IV).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use the FontCreator program from Hi-Logic which allows you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to create open type "contextual features".  I've used this feature. I use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the professional product which retails for $199.00 but their website says
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the Home edition for $79.00 also has this feature (but the home
>>>>>>>>>>>>> edition cannot be used for commercial purposes).  The program only works on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Such questions make me wish to consult Naik's classic work *Typography
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Devanagari <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/6241715>* (3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vols, 1971 rev. ed.), but I've never had access to a copy of this rare
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> publication.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have this book. (Unfortunately its in storage in New
>>>>>>>>>>>>> York). Its been 20 years since I looked at it but I recall it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely fascinating.  As I recall  one volume gives examples of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> devanagari printing from the earliest printed editions up till fairly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> modern times (when it was published), another volume  describes the authors
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas for a devanagari typewriter and the third volume focuses on some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> esoteric ideas of the author.  I can't recall the details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harry Spier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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