[INDOLOGY] [RISA-L LIST] New Book
Nagaraj Paturi
nagarajpaturi at gmail.com
Mon Oct 2 05:20:08 UTC 2017
Even if it does document the history and prevalence of violence in India’s
past, is it not already done in almost every book on ancient Indian history?
By 1932 itself, a Marxist Telugu poet wrote the following poem (Translation
appearantly by Sri Kambhampati Subba Rao):
Desa Charitralu (Histories of the Nations)
-Sree Sree (Srirangam Srinivasarao)
Maha Prasthanam
-*-Translation from Telugu-*-
Whichever country's history you see [E Desa charitra chusina
what reason is there to be proud? [ E munnadi, garva karanam?
Entire history of human race [Nara Jaathi charitra samastham
is exploitation of others [ Parapeedana parayanatwam
Entire history of human race [Nara jaathi charitra samastham
is an exercise in mutual destruction [ Parasparaaharanodyogam
entire history of human race [nara jaathi charitra samastam
is drenched in the blood of the wars [ rana raktha pravaha siktham
Terror as its principal [Bheebatsa rasa pradhanam
Ghostly herds as its equivalent [ visacha gana samavakaram
The entire history of human race is [narajathi charitra samastham
leeching of the penniless [ daridrulanu kaalchuku
thenadam
The mighty made slaves [Balavanthulu durbala jaathini
out of the meek race [ Banisalanu kaavincharu
The murderers became owners of the earth [narahanthalu dharaadhi patulai
and climbed to glory in history [charaitramuna prasiddi kekkiri
A place that is not a battle field [ranarangam kaani chotu bhu
cannot be found anywhere on earth [ sthalamantha vedakina
dorakadu
Entire past is wet with blood [gathamantha thadise rakthamuna
if not, with tears [ kaakunte kanneelulatho
Extinguished families [challarina samsaaralu
decimated populations [ maraninchina jana sandoham
cries of the helpless [asahaayula hahakaaram
are echoing history [ charitralo moolugu thunnavi
Malice, selfishness [Vaishamyam, Swardhaparatwam
connivance, jealousies and conflicts [ Koutilayam, eershyalu,
spardhalu
Armed with tricks and disguises [maayalatho, maaruperla tho
proved the course of the history [charatragathi niroopinchinavi
Chengiz Kahn, Thamarlane [Chengiz Kahn, thamarlenu
Nadirshaw, Ghajni, Gori [ Nadirshaw, Ghajni, Ghori
Sikander--what does it matter who they are? [Sinkandaro evadaithe nem?
Each one a grand murderer [ Okkokkadu maha hantakudu
Vikings, white huns [ Vikingulu, swetha hunulu
Sithians, Parsis [ sithinlu, paraseekulu
Pindaris and Thugs built [ pindarulu, thaggulu kattiri
a bridge of swords to the time [ Kalaaniki kattula vanthena
In the dark ages of ignorance [Agyanapu tandha yugam lo
in hunger and passion-- [ aakalilo, aavesham lo
guided by unknown and extreme forces [Theliyani E theevra sakthulo
marched people-- [thinking] [ nadapisthe, nadhichi
manushyulu
everything is their own achievement [antha thama prayojakatvam
they are the lords of the earth [ thaame bhuvi
kadhinaadhulamani
built kingdoms [sthapinchina saamrajyalu
made artificial laws [which] [ nirminchina kruthrima
chattal
with the rise of other forces [ Itarethara sakthulu leste
fell down as houses of cards! [ padipoyenu peka medalai
from the forces engaged in mutual battle [ parasparam sangharshinchina
rose the history [ sakthulato charitra puttenu
The deception that went on for ever [ Chirakalam jarigina mosam
the heinous crimes of the mighty [ balavanthula dowrjanyalu
the schemes of the rich [ dhanavanthula pannagalu
even now? can't be allowed from now on [ Inkaana? ekapai chellavu
A social justice based on exploitation of [ Oka vyakthini marokka
vyakthi
One person by another person [ oka jaathini veroka jaathi
one race by a different race [ peedinche saanghika dhrmam
even now? can't go from now on [ Inkaana? ekapai saagadu
The rickshaw-wallah in china [cheena lo rickshaw walla
the mine worker of Czech [ check desapu gani pani
manishi
the ship-cleaner of Ireland [irelanduna oda kalaasi
All the down-trodden peoples [anagaarina aarthulandaru--
Hotentots, Zulus, Negroes [Hotentot, julu, neegro
the different races of all continents [ khandantara naanaa jaathulu
will broadcast in one voice [chaaritraka yadartha tatwam
the true nature of the history [Chaatista roka gonthukatho
Which battle took place why? [E uddham enduku jarigeno
which kingdown lasted how long? [ E rajyam ennallundo
the dates, and the documents [Taareekhulu, dastavejulu
These are not the essence of history, [ivi kaavoyi, charitra saram
my friend!
This queen's love affairs [Eee ranee prema puranam
The expenses of that invasion [ Aa muttadi kaina kharchulu
schemes, and accounts [Matalabulu, Kaifeeyatulu
these are not the essence of history, [ivi kaavoyi, charitra saram
my friend!
The stories hidden under the [Ithihaasapu cheekati konam
the dark corners of the history [ Attaduguna padi kaanpinchani
are wanted now! [kadhalannee kavalippudu
A truth that won't hide by being hidden [daacheste daagani satyam
In the civilisation of nile river [Nilu nadee naagarikathalo
what is the life style of a common man? [sic][ saamanyuni jeevana mettidi?
In the building of Taj Mahal [taj mahal nirmananiki
who are the labourers that lifted the stones?[ rallethina kooli levvaru?
In the invasion of the dynasty [Saamrajyapu Dandayatra lo
what are the braveries of the common people? [ samaanyula sahasamettidi?
It is not the Palanquin of the king, my friend,[Prabhuvekkina pallaki
kaadoyi
who are the bearers that carried it? [Adi mosina boyi levvaru?
In takshasila, Pataliputram [Taskhasila, Pataliputram
on the shores of Mediterranean sea [ Madhyadhara samudra teeram
In Harappa, Mohanjadaro [Harappa, Mohanjadaro
on cro-magnon cave fronts-- [Cro-Manyon guha mukhallo
In the twilights of the history [Chaaritraka Vibhata Sandhyala
what was the development of human story? [ Maanava kadha vikasamettidi
What country, in what time [E Desham E kalam lo
achieved what grand truths? [ Saadhinde paramardham?
Which sculpture? what literature? [E Silpam? E Saahityam?
Which science? what music? [ E Sastram? E Gandharvam?
To which rays is this renunciation? [E velgulakee prasthanam?
Which dream? What conquest? [ E swapnam? E digvijayam?
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:33 AM, HR <hr at ivs.edu> wrote:
> Interesting point. Does the book attempt to document the history and
> prevalence of the misconception itself? Or does it only document the
> history and prevalence of violence in India’s past?
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2017, at 5:14 AM, Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
> Dear Prof. Dominik Wjastyk,
>
> "a point of view that certainly exists in the minds of some people"
> certainly provides an exception to my
>
> 'I can say with certainty that ancient India was never imagined during or
> later to the independence movement, either by the educated Indians or by
> the common public as an India without wars or without harsh punishments or
> without harsh ways of crime control etc. '
>
> Are books written to counter 'a point of view that exists in the minds
> of some people' ?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 7:34 AM, Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for this info, Patrick. I've been making her *History of Ancient
>> and Early Medieval India *a set text for my courses for several years
>> now, and it's very good indeed (but sadly she hadn't read your *Kingship,
>> Law and Governance* before her book was published, so the Mauryan
>> chapter needs to be redone).
>>
>> I look forward to reading the new one.
>>
>> Best,
>> Dominik
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Professor Dominik Wujastyk <http://ualberta.academia.edu/DominikWujastyk>
>> ,
>>
>> Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity
>> ,
>>
>> Department of History and Classics
>> <http://historyandclassics.ualberta.ca/>
>> ,
>> University of Alberta, Canada
>> .
>>
>> South Asia at the U of A:
>>
>> sas.ualberta.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30 September 2017 at 07:29, Olivelle, J P <jpo at austin.utexas.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I want to announce a wonderful new
>>> book by Upinder Singh: Political Violence in Ancient India. It demolishes
>>> the common stereotypes about non-violence etc. Published by Harvard.
>>>
>>> http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674975279
>>>
>>> Patrick Olivelle
>>>
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> Nagaraj Paturi
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> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
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>
> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala
>
> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies
>
> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education,
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Nagaraj Paturi
Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala
Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies
FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education,
(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )
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