[INDOLOGY] Ismail Jogi mantra

Nagaraj Paturi nagarajpaturi at gmail.com
Sun Jun 4 12:43:03 UTC 2017


Artur-ji,

Spells that you mention belong to the category of Shaabara mantras,
sometimes called siddha mantras or Shaabara Siddha mantras. These are not
in Sanskrit. They are usually in regional Indian languages (including south
Indian languages), particularly their rustic dialects.

Sharing the snapshot of a Hindi article. (Since you know Hindi, you should
be able to follow). There are books and articles about these in regional
Indian languages.

You called hem mysterious. They consider them to be encryption.

You may see books like http://www.exoticindiaart.com/book/
details/siddha-shabar-mantra-collection-of-200-shabar-mantra-NZI825/

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You say Ismail Jogi is contradictio in adiecto. To those who are aware of
several different 'Hindu'-Islamic syncretisms in India it doesn't appear to
be contradictio in adiecto.

Close to my native town, there is a Veerashaiva-Islamic math. Bham Bam BAba
math

visit http://srisadgurubhambhambaba.blogspot.in/2011/10/photos.html

watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjrlykP7Dm0

Sheik Abdul Baba, the founder of the math, composed songs with content both
from Islam and 'Hinduism' in Kannada and Telugu.

There are Muslim Vaishnavas. Sharing a snapshot from

The Foundations of the Composite Culture in India
By Malika Mohammada

>From here
<https://books.google.co.in/books?id=dwzbYvQszf4C&pg=PA278&lpg=PA278&dq=muslim+vaishnava&source=bl&ots=xS7E38uz1K&sig=Avf5_Z_7C2m0_w8a4tmy-pWvUUc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjeuoaSlqTUAhULO48KHSmXAk04ChDoAQg2MAQ#v=onepage&q=muslim%20vaishnava&f=false>
.

Street magic performers, spell healers and other such practicing groups are
not water tight compartments. There is a big section of this type of
illusion art-supernatural practitioners who are muslims. All those who
studied these cultures through direct close observation know that Muslims
among these use 'Hindu' deity names, 'Hindu' occult material and pooja
material like Turmeric and Kumkum powders etc. Their 'clients call using
them names such as Swami, Jogi etc. also alongside names such as Baba etc.

The spell you quoted belongs to this kind of cultural complex where Islamic
Jogi is common place, not strange and not at all contradictio in adiecto.

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I do not know the language used in the spell to the level of being able to
give word for word meaning to it.

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Some movement after five years of your waiting ?






On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Artur Karp via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> Five years ago I sent to the List this question:
>
> << Mantras in popular Indian magic books - of indrajala type - invoke
> often two mysterious personages: Ismail Jogi and Nuna/Nona/Luna/Lona
> Chamarin.
>
> Has anyone written a paper on them. A monograph - perhaps?>>
>
> ​There was no answer.
>
>
> One such mantra runs as follows:
>
>
>
> *Oṁ namo kāmrū des kāmākhyā devī*
>
>
> *Tahāṁ base ismāil jogī*
>
>
> *Ismāil jogi ke tīn beṭā*
>
>
> *Ek toṛe ek pichoṛe*
>
>
> *Ek śīt tijārī goḍe*
>
>
>
> I am not sure about the meaning of this mantra.
>
>
> Ismail Jogi (contradictio in adiecto) had three sons:
>
>
> one aborted (?), one retarded (?)
>
>
> one coolly (?) in your (?) womb.
>
>
>
> I would be grateful for your comments,
>
>
>
> Artur Karp (ret.)
>
> Chair of South Indian Studies,
>
> University of Warsaw
>
> Polska
>
>>
>
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-- 
Nagaraj Paturi

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.


BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra

BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )


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