[INDOLOGY] Question on Diacritical Marks

John Huntington john.darumadera at gmail.com
Wed Sep 7 18:44:02 UTC 2016


I completely agree with Bob Goldman. There are many scholars who depend on
philologists and linguists to read and interpret texts to provide them with
the information in the text. Often they have developed other academic
skills that are of value to the academic community and by combining their
work with well translated texts can certainly lead to new insights.

John

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Robert Goldman <rpg at berkeley.edu> wrote:

> One might also keep in mind the large number of academic scholars in a
> number of areas such as Religious Studies, Comparative Literature,
> Anthropology, Philosophy, History of Science and many more who depend on
> the monographs, articles and translations of Indologists. Although they may
> well want to read translations of and  studies on the *Upaniṣads*, the
> *Gītā*, Kālidāsa, the *Rāmāyaṇa* etc., most would probably not want to
> have to learn *devanāgarī*  or any other Indic script to do so.
> Dr. R. P.  Goldman
> Catherine and William L. Magistretti Distinguished Professor in South and
> Southeast Asian Studies
> Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies MC # 2540
> The University of California at Berkeley
> Berkeley, CA 94720-2540
> Tel: 510-642-4089
> Fax: 510-642-2409
>
>
>
> On Sep 6, 2016, at 4:30 AM, Olivelle, J P <jpo at austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
>
> Like Jonathan, I also thought I would keep out of this issue, because I
> did not have anything new to contribute. However, Dominik’s message made me
> change my mind. We may think today that Devanāgarī is the “script” of
> Sanskrit, but historically it never was, unlike Latin, Greek, Chinese, or
> Japanese. As anyone who has worked on Sanskrit manuscripts knows, Sanskrit
> texts were written in regional scripts: Grantha, Telugu, Malayalam, Newari,
> Śāradā, etc. So there is no exact parallel between Sanskrit and other
> languages.
>
> Given that Latin script with diacritics parallels exactly the Sanskrit
> alphabet, the issues raised with regard to Chinese do not arise. My own
> rule of thumb is that if it is simply a word or sentence within an English
> article or book, then I use the Latin script, but for texts in Sanskrit (as
> now the rule with the Murthy Library) I use Devanāgarī. Murthy also has
> come up with a possible middle ground: putting names of people and places
> without diacritics, while using them for other Sanskrit terms. But I guess
> we will never come up with a solution that will satisfy all.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2016, at 8:33 PM, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't have any solid evidence for this, but I assume that
> transliteration was invented for Sanskrit because printing Devanagari was
> difficult.  It isn't difficult any more.  All modern computers can make a
> decent fist of Devanagari.  So why are we routinely using transliteration
> at all, any more?  People writing scholarship on Greek or Russian or
> Armenian don't use Latin script.  Why should we?
>
> And if you know any other windmills, I'd be glad to tilt at them too. :-)
>
> Best,
> Dominik
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